Part I: Contexts
Topic 1. Poe's and Maupassant's Aesthetics of the Short Story
a. Poe:
Brief, but not too brief / Poe: brief enough to be read in one sitting | ||
Reader being in writer's control | ||
Impression is the point of greatest importance | ||
Truth is one's own impression | ||
Small amount of right chosen words can have lasting impression |
[First] impression is important | ||
length - read in one sitting | ||
truth better understood in prose tale than poetry | ||
Mr. Hawthorne true genius | ||
complicated plots |
a. Maupassant:
Concentrating on meaning more than actual story | ||
Brings personal experience in[to] his stories | ||
Grass is always greener | ||
Less control, more exploration of senses and emotions | ||
Gives reader credit for being dynamic | ||
Uses real social conditions |
simplicity is key | ||
shouldn't be able to perceive intentions | ||
eliminate minute, useless details | ||
selectivity | ||
differences between life and literature | ||
hidden meaning | ||
straightforward, very detailed |
b. Comparison [of Poe's and Maupassant's views:]
Similarities: stress importance out of using words to describe and tell the story. Being brief, but descriptive. Short prose. Develop characters similarly - midstream like there is a story for each character before story opens | ||
Differences: Poe believes in realism [?], Maupassant believes in illusion of reality; Poe wants reaction of reader to be very planned, Maupassant gives the reader more latitude; Difference of truth - illusion vs. reality |
c. [Do they practice what they "preach" in theory?] [After summarizing author's main points--e.g. stories should be short and include only specific details--] "We all agreed that Poe stuck with his beliefs and Maupassant really didn't."
c. Poe and Maupassant seem to portray their main points in their writing styles:
"The Cask of Amontillado" is written with the "single effect" in mind | ||
Each author speaks very highly of the writing style that they are describing |
Topic 2. Characteristics of Romanticism and Realism
"The Cask of Amontillado"
a. Romantic Characteristics:
Dark horror; gloomy, bones | ||
setting was Romantic | ||
logic to his reasoning |
b. Specific Examples:
Explaining the moss, dusk & overall feeling of moisture | ||
Also that they passed the wine cellar and kept going. They had plenty of opportunity to turn around but didn't. . . . [Montresor] went down into the tombs where his relatives were. | ||
[Montresor] seemed to be regretful that he was going to kill his friend....he thre a torch in with him [Fortunato] before he left, kind of seeming like he was backing off. |
a. [More Romantic characteristics:]
excessive violent characters | ||
exploration of dark side of human nature |
a & b. [More Romantic characteristics & examples ]
setting (catacombs), | ||
exploration of the dark side of Montresor, | ||
how the setting wasn't described in detail (where it is in "The Necklace") | ||
the single effect in a prose tale | ||
length is important as well as the flow and rhythm of the story |
a & b. Poe seems to be really dramatic and drawn out, wordy; [More Romantic characteristics & examples:]
journey to hell: the setting gave that feeling, also deeper meaning of hell | ||
a solitary quest: the journey through the catacombs |
"The Necklace"
c & d. [Realistic Characteristics & some examples:]
Mixed characters - no one seemed to be really good or bad | ||
Predictable ending | ||
Class lines were apparent | ||
Writer's Goal: hard to tell, his vision of what should happen | ||
Selective in realism, censorship | ||
House was rundown | ||
Plot: friends with schoolmate who was rich | ||
Jeweler said he didn't sell it | ||
How she wanted to go to the ball but she didn't have a dress, then shoes | ||
Pretense: description of the house |
[More Realistic Characteristics:]
disillusioned point of view of lower class |
c & d. [More Realistic Characteristics & some examples:]
Ironic coincidences and surprise endings | ||
disillusion or view of life | ||
class lines or haves and have nots | ||
social and economic forces: |
[Another Group: Students discussed notes on Topic #2, listing Romanticism and Realistic characteristics, then quoting examples from the stories, and discussing Seminar group's opinions. Then:] "We all agreed the story could have 2 meanings: (1) consequences of lying and (2) Don't take for granted what you have because others have worse."
[Another Group:] talked about how easy it is to relate to these types of stories [i.e. Realistic?] since they could so easily happen to any one of us. About how Mme. Loisel lived a middle class life but for one night in the upper class she spent 10 years paying for it. "The Writer's Goal" is a straightforward look at what a writer wishes to accomplish.
Part II: Elements of Fiction
(Course Competencies A. #3; B. #4 & #5; C. #8)
Topic 3. Character Analyses & Themes
b. Montressor [from different Seminar Groups]:
Background of Montressor: wealthy, very cold. His family was on a pedestal & drove him to do what he did. He is a static character because he (example) paused and looked before putting the last brick in. He said in French [actually it's Latin], "May his soul rest in peace." | ||
Murder motivated him and he was very static and used strength and weaknesses. | ||
He had a master plan of revenge, which he showed no remorse in carrying out. | ||
Montressor is a static character, his whole mission is revenge. It never changes. | ||
He is motivated by "the thousand injuries of Fortunato." |
c. Mme. Mathilde Loisel [from different Seminar Groups]:
One student believed "social status motivated her, definitely wasn't static, and believed Mme. Loisel changed at the end." [But others in group] believed maybe she didn't [change?] because she wanted to tell her friend because she was mad. | ||
She is a beautiful girl destined for upper class, but married to a clerk. She was not poor but middle class. She always dreamed of more. | ||
She is motivated to enjoy the upperclass life style. | ||
A dynamic character: mentally, physically, and socially. |
d. [On Major themes of the stories, Poe's "effect or impression," Maupassant's "illusion of life" and "profound effect of...particular truth"]:
"The Cask of Amontillado": It shows how one thing can be the only focus in your life | ||
"The Necklace": Be happy with what you have. Swallow your pride and tell the truth. |
Topic 4. Plot Structures & Themes
b. "The Cask of Amontillado" [from different Seminar Groups]:
Exposition: development of Fortunato and Montresor | ||
Exposition: The first line of the story, he vows revenge | ||
Rising Action: Where Montresor to Fortunato about cask of Amontillado | ||
Rising Action: The whole venture down the catacombs | ||
Climax: When Montresor chains Fortunato | ||
Climax: When Fortunato is locked in the chains and something has to give | ||
Falling Action: Building the wall | ||
Conclusion: Final dialogue until final brick | ||
Conclusion: He puts in the final stone and leaves Fortunato in the catacomb |
Poe: complicated plots; main character's age sets mood for story
b & d. Plot Structure & Theme: "Revenge is sweet/sour, talked about what parts of the story were climax, theme, and major conflicts for each of us."
c. "The Necklace" [from different Seminar Groups]:
Exposition: Beginning where social context is described . . . [ran out of time?] | ||
Exposition: Mme. Loisel's introduction to her character. The first couple paragraphs. | ||
Rising Action: She was invited to an elegant evening | ||
Climax: She loses the necklace, and did not find it. | ||
Resolution: She tells Mme. Forestier that she lost the necklace and worked all those years to replace it. |
[More on Plot Structure - Maupassant:]
end of story - twist | ||
plot peaks several times |
b. [Another group] "discussed plot elements and etc. We had similar ideas on the stories and believed different people could have different opinions. Pretty much restated Topic #2."
d. [On Interpretation of Themes, Poe's single "effect or impression, Maupassant's "illusion of life" & "profound impression" of "particular truth"]:
"We didn't get a chance to discuss this but the general consensus was that not all of us understood the question." | ||
"The Necklace" - double meaning: [1] if you live outside your means, expect to take a fall; [2] 'fess up to your mistakes |
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