English 104 - Cora Agatucci
Introduction to Literature: Fiction

Seminar #2 Group Reports: Poe & Maupassant
For Directions, see Eng 104 Assignments: Seminar #2

Part I: Contexts

Topic 1.  Poe's and Maupassant's Aesthetics of the Short Story

a. Poe:

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Brief, but not too brief / Poe: brief enough to be read in one sitting

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Reader being in writer's control

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Impression is the point of greatest importance

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Truth is one's own impression

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Small amount of right chosen words can have lasting impression

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[First] impression is important

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length - read in one sitting

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truth better understood in prose tale than poetry

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Mr. Hawthorne true genius

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complicated plots

a.  Maupassant:

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Concentrating on meaning more than actual story

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Brings personal experience in[to] his stories

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Grass is always greener

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Less control, more exploration of senses and emotions

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Gives reader credit for being dynamic

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Uses real social conditions

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simplicity is key

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shouldn't be able to perceive intentions

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eliminate minute, useless details

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selectivity

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differences between life and literature

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hidden meaning

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straightforward, very detailed

b.  Comparison [of Poe's and Maupassant's views:]

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Similarities: stress importance out of using words to describe and tell the story.  Being brief, but descriptive.  Short prose.  Develop characters similarly - midstream like there is a story for each character before story opens

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Differences:  Poe believes in realism [?], Maupassant believes in illusion of reality; Poe wants reaction of reader to be very planned, Maupassant gives the reader more latitude; Difference of truth - illusion vs. reality

c.  [Do they practice what they "preach" in theory?] [After summarizing author's main points--e.g. stories should be short and include only specific details--] "We all agreed that Poe stuck with his beliefs and Maupassant really didn't."

c.  Poe and Maupassant seem to portray their main points in their writing styles: 

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"The Cask of Amontillado" is written with the "single effect" in mind

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Each author speaks very highly of the writing style that they are describing

Topic 2.  Characteristics of Romanticism and Realism  

"The Cask of Amontillado"
a.  Romantic Characteristics:  

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Dark horror; gloomy, bones

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setting was Romantic

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logic to his reasoning

b.  Specific Examples:  

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Explaining the moss, dusk & overall feeling of moisture 

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Also that they passed the wine cellar and kept going.  They had plenty of opportunity to turn around but didn't. . . . [Montresor]  went down into the tombs where his relatives were.

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[Montresor] seemed to be regretful that he was going to kill his friend....he thre a torch in with him [Fortunato] before he left, kind of seeming like he was backing off.

a.  [More Romantic characteristics:]

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excessive violent characters

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exploration of dark side of human nature

a & b. [More Romantic characteristics & examples ]

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 setting (catacombs), 

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exploration of the dark side of Montresor, 

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how the setting wasn't described in detail (where it is in "The Necklace")

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the single effect in a prose tale

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length is important as well as the flow and rhythm of the story

a & b. Poe seems to be really dramatic and drawn out, wordy; [More Romantic characteristics & examples:]

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journey to hell: the setting gave that feeling, also deeper meaning of hell

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a solitary quest: the journey through the catacombs

"The Necklace"
c & d.  [Realistic Characteristics & some examples:] 

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Mixed characters - no one seemed to be really good or bad

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Predictable ending

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Class lines were apparent

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Writer's Goal: hard to tell, his vision of what should happen

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Selective in realism, censorship

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House was rundown

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Plot: friends with schoolmate who was rich

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Jeweler said he didn't sell it

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How she wanted to go to the ball but she didn't have a dress, then shoes

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Pretense:  description of the house

[More Realistic Characteristics:] 

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disillusioned point of view of lower class

c & d. [More Realistic Characteristics & some examples:] 

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Ironic coincidences and surprise endings

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disillusion or view of life

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class lines or haves and have nots

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social and economic forces:  
--She worked for ten years to repay this necklace, which she wore because socially she thought she needed to.
--She did not show appreciation to her husband for all he gave her.  She just wanted more.

[Another Group: Students discussed notes on Topic #2, listing Romanticism and Realistic characteristics, then quoting examples from the stories, and discussing Seminar group's opinions. Then:]  "We all agreed the story could have 2 meanings: (1) consequences of lying and (2) Don't take for granted what you have because others have worse."

[Another Group:] talked about how easy it is to relate to these types of stories [i.e. Realistic?]  since they could so easily happen to any one of us.  About how Mme. Loisel lived a middle class life but for one night in the upper class she spent 10 years paying for it.  "The Writer's Goal" is a straightforward look at what a writer wishes to accomplish.

Part II: Elements of Fiction
(Course Competencies A. #3; B. #4 & #5; C. #8)

Topic 3.  Character Analyses & Themes

b.  Montressor [from different Seminar Groups]: 

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Background of Montressor: wealthy, very cold.  His family was on a pedestal & drove him to do what he did.  He is a static character because he (example) paused and looked before putting the last brick in.  He said in French [actually it's Latin], "May his soul rest in peace."

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Murder motivated him and he was very static and used strength and weaknesses.

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He had a master plan of revenge, which he showed no remorse in carrying out.

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Montressor is a static character, his whole mission is revenge.  It never changes.

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He is motivated by "the thousand injuries of Fortunato."

c.  Mme. Mathilde Loisel [from different Seminar Groups]:

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One student believed "social status motivated her, definitely wasn't static, and believed Mme. Loisel changed at the end."  [But others in group] believed maybe she didn't [change?] because she wanted to tell her friend because she was mad.

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She is a beautiful girl destined for upper class, but married to a clerk.  She was not poor but middle class.  She always dreamed of more.

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She is motivated to enjoy the upperclass life style.

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A dynamic character: mentally, physically, and socially.

d. [On Major themes of the stories, Poe's "effect or impression," Maupassant's "illusion of life" and "profound effect of...particular truth"]:

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"The Cask of Amontillado": It shows how one thing can be the only focus in your life

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"The Necklace": Be happy with what you have.  Swallow your pride and tell the truth.

Topic 4.  Plot Structures & Themes

b.  "The Cask of Amontillado" [from different Seminar Groups]:

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Exposition: development of Fortunato and Montresor

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Exposition:  The first line of the story, he vows revenge

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Rising Action: Where Montresor to Fortunato about cask of Amontillado

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Rising Action:  The whole venture down the catacombs

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Climax:  When Montresor chains Fortunato

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Climax:  When Fortunato is locked in the chains and something has to give

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Falling Action: Building the wall

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Conclusion: Final dialogue until final brick

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Conclusion:  He puts in the final stone and leaves Fortunato in the catacomb

Poe: complicated plots; main character's age sets mood for story

b & d.  Plot Structure & Theme:  "Revenge is sweet/sour, talked about what parts of the story were climax, theme, and major conflicts for each of us."

c.  "The Necklace" [from different Seminar Groups]:

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Exposition: Beginning where social context is described . . . [ran out of time?]

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Exposition: Mme. Loisel's introduction to her character.  The first couple paragraphs.

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Rising Action: She was invited to an elegant evening

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Climax: She loses the necklace, and did not find it.

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Resolution: She tells Mme. Forestier that she lost the necklace and worked all those years to replace it.

[More on Plot Structure - Maupassant:]

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end of story - twist

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plot peaks several times

b.  [Another group] "discussed plot elements and etc.  We had similar ideas on the stories and believed different people could have different opinions.  Pretty much restated Topic #2."

d.  [On Interpretation of Themes, Poe's single "effect or impression, Maupassant's "illusion of life" & "profound impression" of "particular truth"]:  

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"We didn't get a chance to discuss this but the general consensus was that not all of us understood the question."

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"The Necklace" - double meaning: [1]  if you live outside your means, expect to take a fall; [2] 'fess up to your mistakes

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